Can I still be friends with someone who believes in eugenics?

2021.11.30 03:45 lovetrianglewsomeDV Can I still be friends with someone who believes in eugenics?

I (25f) got into an argument with two friends about poor people having children. All 3 of us are black women from distinctly different backgrounds. I grew up very poor and and am long term friends with middle class Tanya (25f) who introduced me to upper-middle class Bethany (24f). After graduating college, we all moved to the same area and became very close.
I am now a social worker, Tanya works for the government, and Bethany is in public health. We all aspire toward helping careers and align politically on many things, though I am father left on most things. One day, Tanya mentioned how she didn’t feel empathy for poor moms who have kids they can’t afford and Bethany agreed. This evolved into debate (mostly between Bethany and I) about if/why poor people deserve to have children. I won’t go into detail but essentially Bethany argued that poor people should not because it’s irresponsible/abusive, condemnable/punishable, and that considering the contexts like inequitable access to healthcare/generational wealth/social mobility and over policing actually just removed the “personal responsibility” from poor people for their actions.
This wasn’t an off the cuff or half thought through remark. This was the hill that Bethany chose to die on. We talked for about 40 minutes before I ended the original conversation because I was getting too upset and then discussed it again, for more than an hour, two days later. The second conversation ended with Bethany saying that nothing was going to change her mind and that she didn’t want to continue the conversation every time we talked. She also stated that she would be willing to avoid this and similar topics for the sake of our relationship since we couldn’t agree
I’m not interested in whether or not her view is harmful (it is) or if it counts as eugenics (it does - and she acknowledged as much during the discussion). I find her argument to be deeply classist and misaligned with my values, both as a professional who works exclusively with impoverished families and as the child of a very poor family. I’m offended enough that I’m considering ending or at least altering the relationship I have with Bethany as a result of her view and unwillingness to change it. I’m even pondering how to act with Tanya, because she mostly stayed out of it but made clear that she agreed with Bethany when pushed.
On one hand, I care about them both deeply, greatly value our friendship and don’t want this disagreement to end our relationship. But on the other hand, my friends are a representation of who I am and don’t want to be represented by people who think poor people don’t deserve things. I mostly feel gross about their disinterest in seeing their privilege and working through their classism though.
Context: In the recent past, I continued 2 (romantic) relationships with people who had genuinely harmed people physically and mentally. I told myself it was okay because these partners were going to therapy, making amends, and seemingly learning from the harm they caused. I go back and forth on if staying was the right thing to do in either circumstance but usually conclude that o should not have allowed the relationships to continue. This isn’t a romantic relationship and no one was physically harmed but shouldn’t that lesson still apply, in this instance? Or would I just be deciding to give less grace to my friends than I do my romantic partners? Is there a reasonable middle ground between implicitly co-signing her beliefs by ignoring the topic (like those liberal yt girls who date nazis and just dont politics) and completely ending the relationship of she’s unwilling to discuss her view?
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